tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5796383459721793585.post4519516464181571182..comments2023-10-23T15:54:13.715-04:00Comments on The Dark Blue Jacket: DBJ's Ultimate Season Ticket Holder Package proposalTomhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03563836029433927521noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5796383459721793585.post-28700146625716980762013-03-17T13:33:54.883-04:002013-03-17T13:33:54.883-04:00Appreciate the thought, Money.
As for losing mon...Appreciate the thought, Money. <br /><br />As for losing money, the only way this plan loses (additional) money for the club is if they don't improve...and then the losses are capped. They'll have to buy an insurance policy to protect against the potential losses. which will cost the team money. The insurance pays for itself if the team improves and they pocket additional ticket revenue under my formula.<br /><br />And I undertand Morgan's point - that people in other markets (like Toronto) are willing to shell out a lot more for "NHL Hockey" (surely not to watch the Leafs!). Thing is, they aren't in Columbus for a host of reasons - including past performance.Dark Blue Jacketnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5796383459721793585.post-14802735984725199532013-03-17T12:02:36.012-04:002013-03-17T12:02:36.012-04:00I'm not sure why everyone is throwing you unde...I'm not sure why everyone is throwing you under the bus DBJ. It's a very well thought out plan, but I doubt the higher ups in the organization would consider this since they're already losing money as it stands. As for the comparison to Toronto, just shut up. That's like comparing the income generated by the Toronto Argonauts to the income generated by Ohio State football or athletics. Moneynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5796383459721793585.post-79875476203182168452013-03-14T15:05:37.229-04:002013-03-14T15:05:37.229-04:00Agreed after 12 years I don't won't want a...Agreed after 12 years I don't won't want anymore crappy water bottles, blankets, hats, posters, bobble heads, pucks, T shirts, backstage passes, meat and greets, tunnel of pride...etc. <br /><br />Lower my tickets prices (or gaurantee you wont raise them) and give me one quality gift a year.<br /><br />PeteAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5796383459721793585.post-25565123815261125342013-03-13T20:52:43.708-04:002013-03-13T20:52:43.708-04:00Actually, read closer and see that my expectation ...Actually, read closer and see that my expectation for next season is that they're within 5 points of the playoffs. Go look at <a href="http://www.nhl.com/ice/standings.htm?season=20112012&type=con#&navid=nav-stn-conf" rel="nofollow">the 11-12 Eastern Conference standings</a> and see that I'd like the team to get nothing lower than 10th before expecting any additional discount beyond what I'm currently receiving as a quarter season ticket package holder.<br /><br />On the flip side, I'm also willing to give this year's discount level of 15% back to the team in a heartbeat if they make the playoffs. In fact, I'll give 5% of that 15% back if they come up short at the wire.<br /><br />This actually is quite fair. It just places direct financial pressure on the franchise from its core ticket holders to win. (Keeping in mind that the team would insure against potential losses, of course.)Dark Blue Jacketnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5796383459721793585.post-30960928326969638942013-03-13T18:50:49.551-04:002013-03-13T18:50:49.551-04:00You expect to get a discount because they don'...You expect to get a discount because they don't meet your expectations of playoffs every year? Do you want this team shipped off to Canada quicker than Mason losing a shootout?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5796383459721793585.post-18249194481015125722013-03-13T17:35:13.988-04:002013-03-13T17:35:13.988-04:00I somewhat agree with your position on refunds. T...I somewhat agree with your position on refunds. That's why it's shared risk. If the team actually makes the playoffs, ticket holders pay more than they would under the current plan. If the team sucks rocks once again, the team has to reprice their tickets to reflect their diminished product. <br /><br />The formula is based entirely on standings points. Insurance covers the unpredictables, but The Buckeye Problem probably is an uninsurable risk. <br /><br />As for how it would go over, I don't really care. I'm a fan, not a team owner. <br /><br />And <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/extra/afl/news/story?id=3087219" rel="nofollow">there is precedent for this type of action</a>. (Here's <a href="http://www.questia.com/library/1G1-93922686/teams-guarantee-playoffs-or-money-back-sports-sports" rel="nofollow">another truncated piece</a>, but NHL teams were mentioned.)<br /><br />As for layoffs/cost certainty, that's why you insure the risk. Pay your premium, keep the finances stable. Let the insurance company money issue the refunds if the season goes sour. Dark Blue Jacketnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5796383459721793585.post-58608871185695590942013-03-13T17:26:01.073-04:002013-03-13T17:26:01.073-04:00How do injuries, player requests to be traded, and...How do injuries, player requests to be traded, and the necessity to battle the buckeyes for broadcast time equate into the refund formula? Do you pay your season ticket fees into escrow? A refund doesn't incent me to buy a season ticket, one of the cheapest in the leauge on average. A refund helps me lower my standards as a consumer. The league didn't play hockey for a year because the owners wanted cost certainty. This will go over like a turd in a punch bowl. Not to mention the league would never let this happen. Imagine what the Senators would be going through right now? Laying off ticket sales people and hot dog vendors because of the likihood they'd have to pay back collected revenues would be greater.Morganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00956860295146122482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5796383459721793585.post-45360536491724847582013-03-13T17:00:08.497-04:002013-03-13T17:00:08.497-04:00Only 8,000?
Seriously, this is a totally differen...Only 8,000?<br /><br />Seriously, this is a totally different hockey market. Greater Toronto has over 5.5 million people and is the hub of Canadian commerce and media (hype). Metro Columbus has 1.8 million people and shares economic and cultural power with two other cities in the state. The Leafs have been around since 1917, while the Blue Jackets are in their twelfth NHL season. <br /><br />Let Toronto laugh. There's no way that local ownership (or pretty much any NHL market) can have the same income expectations that they have up there. <br /><br />Never mind that this team has zero winning tradition. Leafs fans can at least celebrate how great it was when their grandparents were going to games!<br /><br />No, the Blue Jackets need to make concessions to attract fans. They have done so in the past, and this is another way to do so.Dark Blue Jacketnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5796383459721793585.post-31876060881162752752013-03-13T16:39:03.865-04:002013-03-13T16:39:03.865-04:00Somewhere, the 8,000 people on the Toronto Maple L...Somewhere, the 8,000 people on the Toronto Maple Leafs season ticket wait list are laughing at you. They are happy to pay an average ticket price of $145 USD to see Blue Jackets quality hockey.Morganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00956860295146122482noreply@blogger.com